ditra
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Post by ditra on Jul 17, 2013 18:29:24 GMT -5
If IMDb is accurate, that narrows things down quite a bit. And Warren was my fav prospect as the killer. (But it's not totally accurate, since it doesn't list Koteas as appearing in "Try", so we shouldn't treat it as infallible).
So, if Ray Seward knows who his wife's killer is, what could possibly motivate his suicide-by-justice-system, and his silence? A threat to his son is meaningless, really; the killer just waits until Seward is hanged and kills the boy anyway. But Seward may be bound to silence in spite of that. Seward may be responsible for the Pond Murders, but doesn't seem to be sociopathic enough. (I originally thought he was).
I got the impression that he does not know, but believes that his son might. Skinner may have realized Seward was innocent, but forced the conviction anyway to enhance his career.
As to the current crop of murder/abductions, I'm leaning toward a cop, someone who street kids would fear, and someone who could easily find them if they escaped, as Angie thought. Reddick would be a good choice, but also is missing from the last episodes, per IMDb. Skinner may be toting around some deep pathology, possibly related to his daughter's experiences.
On a completely different note, did anyone else notice that the knife PM was holding on Linden was a completely serrated hunting knife? As in the type of blade used in all of the murders? These are actually pretty unusual, and specialized for sawing through ropes and tree branches, and, well, dismembering game. Nearly all hunting knife blades are smooth, so they can be sharpened, with maybe a little serration on the back. Odd sort of a weapon for an urban man of the cloth to be wielding, actually.
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Post by mizpatti on Jul 17, 2013 18:32:11 GMT -5
Does anyone else get the impression that Ray Seward (if he truly didn't do it himself) doesn't know who killed his wife? Up until this episode I had the impression he may have known who the real killer is (especially when his father commended him for keeping his mouth shut) but surely, considering the desperate state he's in and with only 2 days to go before his execution, if he's relying on Linden to help him he would've told her who he thinks did it. Totally out of left field . . . Maybe " Tough and Ready Ray" knows the killer and what's going on, but " Timid and Scared Tom" has no idea. In order to cope, Ray Seward has developed dissociative identity disorder. One moment Ray can't wait to put the noose around his own neck and pull the leaver. Now Tom on the other hand, want's to fight for his life. Could Ray have developed a multiple personality (Tom) to help him deal with the life of an abusive father and his life inside prison starting around age 16. Ray is the dominate, while Tom is the submissive. |
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Post by Genius Killing on Jul 18, 2013 0:36:49 GMT -5
I would like to go on record and caution against trusting IMDb. This is from my background as a Wikipedia editor. We use IMDB for mainly previous TV shows/movies, but, because future info can't be sourced, we don't trust it. Character names can change, scenes can be cut, etc.
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Post by merryone on Jul 18, 2013 0:45:15 GMT -5
If IMDb is accurate, that narrows things down quite a bit. And Warren was my fav prospect as the killer. [But it's not totally accurate, since it doesn't list Koteas as appearing in "Try", so we shouldn't treat it as infallible]. So, if Ray Seward knows who his wife's killer is, what could possibly motivate his suicide-by-justice-system, and his silence? A threat to his son is meaningless, really; the killer just waits until Seward is hanged and kills the boy anyway. But Seward may be bound to silence in spite of that. Seward may be responsible for the Pond Murders, but doesn't seem to be sociopathic enough. .
I got the impression that he does not know, but believes that his son might. Skinner may have realized Seward was innocent, but forced the conviction anyway to enhance his career.
As to the current crop of murder/abductions, I'm leaning toward a cop, someone who street kids would fear, and someone who could easily find them if they escaped, as Angie thought. Reddick would be a good choice, but also is missing from the last episodes, per IMDb. Skinner may be toting around some deep pathology, possibly related to his daughter's experiences.
On a completely different note, did anyone else notice that the knife PM was holding on Linden was a completely serrated hunting knife? As in the type of blade used in all of the murders? These are actually pretty unusual, and specialized for sawing through ropes and tree branches, and, well, dismembering game. Nearly all hunting knife blades are smooth, so they can be sharpened, with maybe a little serration on the back. Odd sort of a weapon for an urban man of the cloth to be wielding, actually.
ditra, the IMDB cast list for TK has been very inaccurate all season long so I wouldn't put much stock in it (...she said, the one who proffered an evil twin theory based on Peter Sarsgaard's "Ray/Tom Seward" listing in his IMDB filmography). I wouldn't give up on Warren just yet! In light of what he did to Twitch, I'd think he'd get at least a little more screen time before it's all over. You make an excellent point about Ray's inability to protect his son once he's been executed (if protecting Adrian is even a priority of his). I can't wait to learn more about Ray, he's such a compelling character! I didn't notice that about the knife Pastor Mike wielded. Interesting! FWIW I recall reading an interview with Ben Cotton/PM wherein he discussed the knife -- he said something about it being very dull so it wouldn't accidentally hurt Mireille Enos. |
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Post by merryone on Jul 18, 2013 0:47:50 GMT -5
Ray still can't say that Skinnerdidit, if Skinnerdidit. It's up to someone on the outside to find that out. Sucks that it might be Adrian. I still think Ray has that secret he holds till he has the audience, will die revealing it, then the race is on to bust the killer. Why else would he want Skinner to see him swing, to see what cowardice hath wrought? Is it as simple as Ray knowing Skinner hates "one of his own" busts to die??? But Genius, with only 2 days to go, even if he feels he can't tell Linden explicitly about Skinner, couldn't he at least give her a little clue? The clock is ticking!!! |
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Post by Genius Killing on Jul 18, 2013 6:03:50 GMT -5
But Genius, with only 2 days to go, even if he feels he can't tell Linden explicitly about Skinner, couldn't he at least give her a little clue? The clock is ticking!!! Why does he deny Adrian at the beginning, then three weeks later, allow Sarah to contact him? Why doesn't he ask for another lawyer? Why does his father want Becker dead? Why did he kill the priest? Why did he shave his head? Why? WHY?  |
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Post by mizpatti on Jul 18, 2013 7:28:59 GMT -5
If he want's to skip the rope, he better do something fast. Waiting for Adrian's big scene.
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Post by merryone on Jul 18, 2013 9:22:18 GMT -5
But Genius, with only 2 days to go, even if he feels he can't tell Linden explicitly about Skinner, couldn't he at least give her a little clue? The clock is ticking!!! Why does he deny Adrian at the beginning, then three weeks later, allow Sarah to contact him? Why doesn't he ask for another lawyer? Why does his father want Becker dead? Why did he kill the priest? Why did he shave his head? Why? WHY? Did the priest die? I missed that! |
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Post by ButterflyCheryl on Jul 18, 2013 12:36:09 GMT -5
imdb it is not always correct
imdb does give us a general cast list to refer to though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 15:23:53 GMT -5
If he want's to skip the rope, he better do something fast. Waiting for Adrian's big scene. He's not skipping rope but I CAN say, without doubt, there is a VERY big scene with Adrian coming up! Most likely it will be in Episode 10. |
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