Who are your top 3 suspects

[merryone]

My top 3 have always been someone in law enforcement.  But it dawned on me that we're being led to believe that the same person committed all of the murders including Trisha Seward's and we're also being led to believe that Ray Seward may know who killed his wife.  We're also being led to suspect that Ray's protecting someone, maybe the killer (or maybe his son Adrian).  SO, my question is why would Ray willingly face the gallows for a LE officer?

In light of this, my No. 1 suspect Gabe Henderson seems an unlikely killer, judging from Ray's interaction with him.  The other two, Becker and Reddick, still warrant suspicion as they may have threatened to do something to Adrian if Ray tells what he knows.  SO, I changed my Week 6 vote from Henderson to Becker -- maybe the "family feud" theory posited by others explains:  the perpetual taunting between Ray and Becker; Ray's attempt to remove his tat with Adrian's initial and DOB (so Becker wouldn't know how much he cares?); Ray Sr. supplying Ray with a razor blade to use on Becker.  But I can't figure out why, if Becker's The Killer, he stopped killing for 2+ years.

In addition to the family feud theory, I can also envision a scenario in which The Killer is a customer of Joe Mills' videos and Mama Dips' hotel/brothel-of-sorts.  He then seeks out the girls to "save" them.  The link to the Beacon shelter may just be coincidental, in that any overflow often ends up at Mama Dips' place.  In this scenario, I'd [reluctantly] include Skinner in my Top 3 Suspects, along with Becker and Reddick.  But then, how to account for the [now] 2+ year hiatus in killing?  In Skinner's case, I could imagine that his wife kept him on a short leash in the aftermath of his affair with Linden.  In the case of Reddick, I can't figure out why he'd stop killing for a couple of years.  I dunno - maybe Joe Mills was in jail or something for a couple of years and unable to produce his videos, which may be the trigger for the killings in this scenario. 

ETA:  I changed my vote again -- to Carl Reddick.  He most-literally corresponds with the Pied Piper tale (I posted this on Discussion of Various Clues thread), plus there've been other things about him that arouse suspicion.  I haven't figured out how he's linked to Trisha Seward or the Picasso drawings, and I can't explain the 2+ yr. hiatus in killing when it comes to him, but he's at the top of my list again!

[sunny]

Maybe Seward told his father that his wife was hooking again so his father had Adrian's mother killed.

I think Seward and Adrian and his mother lived in a crummy part of town so it could have been
someone Seward's father hired from the street or a cop in his pocket patrolling the neighborhood who killed Adrian's mother.

I think Twitch has a hangup with other guys but not much problem roughing up girls. I think maybe
the killer is using Twitch in some way but the killings are by someone who is more organized than Twitch.

When Angie was shown the mugshots, they were of a type more like Joe: thirtyish, coarse,
non-professional.  Angie said her captor was not 'like that'.

To me this means someone older or younger than Joe. Either 1.Reddick, 2.Skinner or 3.Goldie or
prison guard Henderson (ugh, I just hope not, though).

[merryone]

Since it's become apparent that Ray doesn't know who killed his wife (if indeed he's innocent of the crime), I think that keeps Gabe Henderson in the running.  Based on my suspicion that Ray knew who the "real killer" was, because of the relatively congenial way he and Henderson have interacted I gradually dismissed him as a suspect, but not anymore.  Carl Reddick's still at the top of my list this week though.  I guess I'd still include Becker -- I can't tell if he's lying about his wife or she's lying about him!

[kbwebster]

Hi all. I'm new to this board and I would like to ask for your help. I need for ya'll to think this through with me: What about Reggie? There's no written rule that the killer has to be a man, right? I mean, outside of Linden and Holder, she's the ONLY person carried over from seasons 1 and 2. Why did they even have to show the marriage scene, except to re-introduce us to Reggie and let us know she's still around? As a social worker, she has a connection to Ray and Trisha because she took custody of Adrian after Trisha's murder. So she could be the link between Linden-Ray-Trisha-Adrian-Reggie. She also was taking care of Jack when Linden was obsessed with Rosie's case. Therefore, she would've known where Linden was staying, and probably had a key. Maybe she's the one who put the Picasso pic on Linden's fridge? She would've had access to Adrian's file, therefore to the picture. And she surely must've known what the picture would do to Linden. Maybe she was trying to drive her over the edge again? I know Angie says "he", but if you think about it, Reggie is pretty man-ish. With a hat on, in the dark, to a terrified teenage girl, she might've looked like a he. She would've known most of the kids through her social work. The girls wouldn't have been afraid to get in the car with her. Ashley had vaginal bruising but no semen. That doesn't necessarily mean she was raped. She's a prostitute, so the bruising could've come from a previous trick. Reggie had custody of Adrian before the foster family, so maybe she took him to the pond to "dump some trash" but maybe Adrian knows the truth and he's scared to say. I don't know. I know it's kind of out of left field, but the more I turn it over in my head, the more it kind of makes sense. What do ya'll think? If it's not Reggie, then I think it's a cop. Maybe Reddick. It's obvious by the cruel remarks he makes that he hates women. Anyway...just thinking out loud. And we all know how Veena and gang like to surprise us. Reggie would be a surprise, don't you think? Thanks.

[merryone]

^^Wow, that's a great theory and you've considered a lot of the angles kb!  My No. 1 suspect at this point is Reddick and there's at least one puzzlement with both of our theories:  Like you said, it would've been easy for Reggie to place the Picasso picture on Linden's refrigerator.  I've suspected Reddick could've pulled it off too, plus he's shown a certain degree of animus towards Sarah to boot.  BUT BUT BUT why would The Killer taunt a detective, of all people, with a drawing of his/her dump site?  This is something I can't figure out.

[kbwebster]

Hi merryone. Thank you for responding. I was beginning to think I was crazy for thinking Reggie. But there is a connection between seasons 1 & 2, between her, Linden, Ray, Trisha and Adrian. I know Adrian holds the key to the whole shebang. I think Ray will use the adoption card to get the foster parents to let Adrian talk to Linden. If they let him talk Ray will sign the papers. You do pose a good question about why the killer would taunt a detective. It could be just plain old narcissism. The Zodiac killer wrote coded letters to the police to prove that he was smarter than them. And then there's Ted Bundy, who represented himself because he thought he was smarter. I think most serial killers are narcissistic. If it was Reggie she could've done it because she knew what that picture would do to Linden. Maybe she was trying to push Linden over the edge and back into the psych hospital. That way, Linden wouldn't be able to pursue the case and Reggie would be in the clear. I know my theory is completely out of left field, but most of the other players seem too obvious. Skinner, Reddick, the parole officer, Pastor Mike... They're just too obvious. I think it will be someone who takes us completely by surprise...someone we never saw coming. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just thinking out loud. Thanks again. I appreciate your comments.  

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Hi KB - What an awesome theory! Reggie has crossed my mind several times and she would certainly fit the profile. Her reaction when finding Sarah working on the case again seemed really off. She acted angry rather than concerned. I keep dismissing her because she hasn't appeared in more episodes but you may really be onto something here!

[kbwebster]

Hi rainydaygirl! To be honest, I find it hard to believe it could be Reggie, but the more I put it together, the more it seems like it could be. She's the only link between Linden-Ray-Trisha-Adrian-Reggie. When they showed the picture on Linden's fridge in season 2, it had nothing to do with the Rosie case. So why show it? Why did they keep alluding to Linden's involvement, and ultimate breakdown, over the Seward case in Season 2? Because they were leading up to season 3. And outside of Linden and Holder, Reggie is the only connection between seasons 1 & 2, and now season 3. She did seem to get upset to find out that Sarah was back on the case. But at that time I thought she was upset because she was concerned about Sarah's mental health. Maybe she was upset because Sarah might find her way back to Reggie. I think maybe she put the picture on the fridge because she was hoping to get Linden readmitted to the psych hospital and off her back. Shoot, I guess thinking it could be Reggie is no different than thinking it could be Bullet, or Holder, as some others are thinking. I think last weeks episode was to take Pastor Mike out of the picture. Next Sunday I think will be to take Joe Mills out of the picture. The next Sunday (the last Sunday) I think the first hour will be about Linden talking to Adrian, and the second hour will be about actually catching the serial killer. Like I said earlier, just thinking out loud. Thanks so much for the response. I'm glad to know I'm not completely crazy thinking it could be Reggie! LOL

[merryone]

Jul 16, 2013 21:44:22 GMT -5 kbwebster said:

Hi merryone. Thank you for responding. I was beginning to think I was crazy for thinking Reggie. But there is a connection between seasons 1 & 2, between her, Linden, Ray, Trisha and Adrian. I know Adrian holds the key to the whole shebang. I think Ray will use the adoption card to get the foster parents to let Adrian talk to Linden. If they let him talk Ray will sign the papers. You do pose a good question about why the killer would taunt a detective. It could be just plain old narcissism. The Zodiac killer wrote coded letters to the police to prove that he was smarter than them. And then there's Ted Bundy, who represented himself because he thought he was smarter. I think most serial killers are narcissistic. If it was Reggie she could've done it because she knew what that picture would do to Linden. Maybe she was trying to push Linden over the edge and back into the psych hospital. That way, Linden wouldn't be able to pursue the case and Reggie would be in the clear. I know my theory is completely out of left field, but most of the other players seem too obvious. Skinner, Reddick, the parole officer, Pastor Mike... They're just too obvious. I think it will be someone who takes us completely by surprise...someone we never saw coming. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just thinking out loud. Thanks again. I appreciate your comments.  

kb, your suspicion that The Killer placed the drawing on the fridge due to narcissism is probably correct.  At times I've wondered if someone, someone who has a tangential relationship to the murders, could've put it there to alert Linden (going Galileo).  But that's not very plausible.

A lot of TK fans who suspect minor characters have expressed the same sentiment as you -- that the main characters are too obvious.  I get it -- being stunned when a left field character is the one whodunit can be fun.  But I'm almost ashamed to admit that I prefer any outcome that appeals more to my prurient interest -- I want to be stunned by the gorey details of the crime!  I guess the WHAT and WHY are more important to me than the WHO!

[Genius Killing]

Jul 17, 2013 0:42:27 GMT -5 merryone said:

I guess the WHAT and WHY are more important to me than the WHO!

That's my sentiment with any murder mystery. I don't want to hear any motive be a social commentary on the world's neglected. I want it to be personal to someone - the intimate throat slashing and the missing rings.